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		<title>By: rb</title>
		<link>http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2005/09/27/cross-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-1606</link>
		<dc:creator>rb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 23:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>beautiful currents as always&lt;br/&gt;I love your posts&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;cross-relations, bird-calls and breezes....&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(not to mention meow-meow-meow-meow)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beautiful currents as always<br />I love your posts</p>
<p>cross-relations, bird-calls and breezes&#8230;.</p>
<p>(not to mention meow-meow-meow-meow)</p>
<p>!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2005/09/27/cross-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-1605</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 02:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got back from your performance tonight (10/1) at BARGEMUSIC.  Congratulations on a fantastic performance. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Having discovered this blog a few weeks ago, I was not the least bit surprised you played a Bach Partita instead of the Beethoven Moonlight.  I have never heard the 6th before, and I loved it.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There was a magical moment around the time of the &quot;tripped out&quot; Sarabande.  In the silence right before you started playing the Sarabande, one could hear sirens from a distance.  Then the dance began with a hauntingly blurred not-quite-arpeggiated chord.  The sirens became a bit louder.  The music proceeded into what could best be described as a delirium. Soon, the boat started rocking.  I could not tell what was driving what - the music&#039;s intensity making the barge pull against its moorings; the waves on the East River driving the already fidgety Sarabande into flights of further frenzy; or merely a cosmic coincidence.  In any case, I was breathless.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Immediately following the non-danceable Gigue of the 6th Partita came the Barber Sonata for Cello and Piano.  I don&#039;t have the music here, so I am trusting my ear, but the main theme of the Barber first movement very much reminded me of the angular theme of the Gigue.  Again, very well-played.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks again for a fantastic performance.  I can&#039;t wait to hear you again.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Joe Murray&lt;br/&gt;jfmurray3@aol.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got back from your performance tonight (10/1) at BARGEMUSIC.  Congratulations on a fantastic performance. </p>
<p>Having discovered this blog a few weeks ago, I was not the least bit surprised you played a Bach Partita instead of the Beethoven Moonlight.  I have never heard the 6th before, and I loved it.  </p>
<p>There was a magical moment around the time of the &#8220;tripped out&#8221; Sarabande.  In the silence right before you started playing the Sarabande, one could hear sirens from a distance.  Then the dance began with a hauntingly blurred not-quite-arpeggiated chord.  The sirens became a bit louder.  The music proceeded into what could best be described as a delirium. Soon, the boat started rocking.  I could not tell what was driving what &#8211; the music&#8217;s intensity making the barge pull against its moorings; the waves on the East River driving the already fidgety Sarabande into flights of further frenzy; or merely a cosmic coincidence.  In any case, I was breathless.</p>
<p>Immediately following the non-danceable Gigue of the 6th Partita came the Barber Sonata for Cello and Piano.  I don&#8217;t have the music here, so I am trusting my ear, but the main theme of the Barber first movement very much reminded me of the angular theme of the Gigue.  Again, very well-played.  </p>
<p>Thanks again for a fantastic performance.  I can&#8217;t wait to hear you again.</p>
<p>Joe Murray<br /><a href="mailto:jfmurray3@aol.com">jfmurray3@aol.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 13:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard you play the Bartok concerto last night with the Louisville Orchestra.  WOW!!!!!  I have never liked Bartok, but you have made me think about venturing into previously ignored territory.  Thanks for playing an encore &amp; thanks for choosing Bach. I liked your interpretation immensely. ARN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard you play the Bartok concerto last night with the Louisville Orchestra.  WOW!!!!!  I have never liked Bartok, but you have made me think about venturing into previously ignored territory.  Thanks for playing an encore &#038; thanks for choosing Bach. I liked your interpretation immensely. ARN</p>
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		<title>By: Hucbald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hucbald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 05:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a guitarist/composer, Bach is my ideal for several reasons, including that he left a plethora of small gems for lute, cello, and violin which transcribe to my instrument readily.  Beyond that though, there is the fact that two-part counterpoint is the irreducible essence of Western art music, and no instrument shows it off better than guitar: Two-voice polyphony sounds thin and incomplete on a keyboard, but perfectly full and satisfying on a fretboard.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Once addicted to counterpoint, music that lacks that aspect seems weak and, well, effeminate.  I don&#039;t personally care for the music of Bartok.  It communicates nothing of value to me, though I percieve it is well crafted enough.  Just too much uglyness in the dissonance, instead of beauty.  But, Tchaicovsky; gag, retch.  I&#039;d rather be shot than play that pablum, or listen to it.  No contrapuntal aspects at all.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Ironically, his best student, Sergi Ivanovich Taneiev, was the foremost contrapuntal scholar in all of music history (And, he was quite critical of his teacher&#039;s music): His &quot;Convertible Counterpoint in the Strict Style&quot; and &quot;The Technique of Canon&quot; are the crowning achievements of contrapuntal pedagogy.  Nothing else even comes close.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also, his Fourth Symphony is as good as anything Brahms ever wrote (IMVHO), but with more erudite counterpoint (Get the Le Chant Du Monde/Melodia U.R.S.S. recording of 1962 if you want to hear it done right: Western European and American orchestras simply can&#039;t bring themselves to blare the horns out properly in more modern recordings for some reason).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Taneiev also wrote some stunning chamber music around the piano you might be interested in, Jeremy: It will certainly exceed all your wildest expectations with respect to satisfying your polyphony Jones.  The Piano Trio Op. 22 is great, and the Piano Quintet Op. 30 is even better.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Then, there is the sublime String Quartet No. 9.  Holy Moses, what an amazing work.  It&#039;s almost impenitrably good.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;After Taneiev, there have been no &quot;real&quot; composers for me (He died in 1915, I believe).  He was the last gasp of the tradition as far as I&#039;m concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a guitarist/composer, Bach is my ideal for several reasons, including that he left a plethora of small gems for lute, cello, and violin which transcribe to my instrument readily.  Beyond that though, there is the fact that two-part counterpoint is the irreducible essence of Western art music, and no instrument shows it off better than guitar: Two-voice polyphony sounds thin and incomplete on a keyboard, but perfectly full and satisfying on a fretboard.</p>
<p>Once addicted to counterpoint, music that lacks that aspect seems weak and, well, effeminate.  I don&#8217;t personally care for the music of Bartok.  It communicates nothing of value to me, though I percieve it is well crafted enough.  Just too much uglyness in the dissonance, instead of beauty.  But, Tchaicovsky; gag, retch.  I&#8217;d rather be shot than play that pablum, or listen to it.  No contrapuntal aspects at all.</p>
<p>Ironically, his best student, Sergi Ivanovich Taneiev, was the foremost contrapuntal scholar in all of music history (And, he was quite critical of his teacher&#8217;s music): His &#8220;Convertible Counterpoint in the Strict Style&#8221; and &#8220;The Technique of Canon&#8221; are the crowning achievements of contrapuntal pedagogy.  Nothing else even comes close.  </p>
<p>Also, his Fourth Symphony is as good as anything Brahms ever wrote (IMVHO), but with more erudite counterpoint (Get the Le Chant Du Monde/Melodia U.R.S.S. recording of 1962 if you want to hear it done right: Western European and American orchestras simply can&#8217;t bring themselves to blare the horns out properly in more modern recordings for some reason).</p>
<p>Taneiev also wrote some stunning chamber music around the piano you might be interested in, Jeremy: It will certainly exceed all your wildest expectations with respect to satisfying your polyphony Jones.  The Piano Trio Op. 22 is great, and the Piano Quintet Op. 30 is even better.</p>
<p>Then, there is the sublime String Quartet No. 9.  Holy Moses, what an amazing work.  It&#8217;s almost impenitrably good.</p>
<p>After Taneiev, there have been no &#8220;real&#8221; composers for me (He died in 1915, I believe).  He was the last gasp of the tradition as far as I&#8217;m concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Evans</title>
		<link>http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2005/09/27/cross-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-1602</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy, just found your blog and have spent too many hours reading the past posts.  I love your writing very much.  It&#039;s good to see that successful musicians (especially pianists) can in fact be well-rounded, socially functioning humans!!!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You didn&#039;t mention my favorite Bachian aspect of that slow Bartok movement--namely the piano accompaniment to the chorale when the chorale re-appears in the orchestra after the nature music.  Here the piano plays two voice imitative counterpoint, which sometimes seems to be lifted straight out Bach&#039;s Two Part Inventions.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One other thing...Bartok was a self-proclaimed atheist, but he marks this movement Adagio religioso.  Sounds to me like a tip of the hat to Bach&#039;s spirituality, don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, just found your blog and have spent too many hours reading the past posts.  I love your writing very much.  It&#8217;s good to see that successful musicians (especially pianists) can in fact be well-rounded, socially functioning humans!!!</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t mention my favorite Bachian aspect of that slow Bartok movement&#8211;namely the piano accompaniment to the chorale when the chorale re-appears in the orchestra after the nature music.  Here the piano plays two voice imitative counterpoint, which sometimes seems to be lifted straight out Bach&#8217;s Two Part Inventions.  </p>
<p>One other thing&#8230;Bartok was a self-proclaimed atheist, but he marks this movement Adagio religioso.  Sounds to me like a tip of the hat to Bach&#8217;s spirituality, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: TCho</title>
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		<dc:creator>TCho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ll have to educate me on Air on a G String.  That&#039;s my favorite Bach piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll have to educate me on Air on a G String.  That&#8217;s my favorite Bach piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 04:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again with the identifying my most beloved moments - this time the chorale/bird (insect?) call meeting point - and explicating them without sucking the life out of them... Mmm, good.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If I was, as I doubt, your &quot;one remaining reader,&quot; you should know that I finished the post sated - or, to continue with your theme, high - &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;jb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again with the identifying my most beloved moments &#8211; this time the chorale/bird (insect?) call meeting point &#8211; and explicating them without sucking the life out of them&#8230; Mmm, good.  </p>
<p>If I was, as I doubt, your &#8220;one remaining reader,&#8221; you should know that I finished the post sated &#8211; or, to continue with your theme, high &#8211; </p>
<p>jb</p>
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