Comments on: The Most Concise, Brilliant Put-Down of Wagner Ever http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/ The glamorous life and thoughts of a concert pianist. Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:34:50 -0500 hourly 1 By: DBrokaw http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-4928 DBrokaw Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:45:23 +0000 http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/#comment-4928 Another barb at Wagner: "I love Wagner, but the music I prefer is that of a cat hung up by its tail outside a window and trying to stick to the panes of glass with its claws." (Baudelaire) Another barb at Wagner:

“I love Wagner, but the music I prefer is that of a cat hung up by its tail outside a window and trying to stick to the panes of glass with its claws.” (Baudelaire)

]]> By: virginia furtwangler http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-4794 virginia furtwangler Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:40:34 +0000 http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/#comment-4794 I heard you play Ives in Portland a year ago and have been tuned into your blog with delight ever since. Thanks for wit, a literary sense, and such a sense of un. Ginny Furtwangler I heard you play Ives in Portland a year ago and have been tuned into your blog with delight ever since. Thanks for wit, a literary sense, and such a sense of un.

Ginny Furtwangler

]]> By: ******Val in blu http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-4787 ******Val in blu Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:06:54 +0000 http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/#comment-4787 be nice Liszt wrote some of it be nice
Liszt wrote some of it

]]> By: Andrea http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-4775 Andrea Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:07:30 +0000 http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/#comment-4775 and of course there's Nietzsche on Wagner: "Mein größtes Erlebnis war eine Genesung. Wagner gehört bloß zu meinen Krankheiten. Nicht daß ich gegen diese Krankheit undankbar sein möchte. Wenn ich mit dieser Schrift den Satz aufrechterhalte, daß Wagner schädlich ist, so will ich nicht weniger aufrechterhalten, wem er trotzdem unentbehrlich ist – dem Philosophen....Durch Wagner redet die Modernität ihre intimste Sprache: sie verbirgt weder ihr Gutes, noch ihr Böses, sie hat alle Scham vor sich verlernt. Und umgekehrt: man hat beinahe eine Abrechnung über den Wert der Modernen gemacht, wenn man über Gut und Böse bei Wagner mit sich im klaren ist.– Ich verstehe es vollkommen, wenn heut ein Musiker sagt: 'ich hasse Wagner, aber ich halte keine andere Musik mehr aus." (My greatest experience was a recovery. Wagner only belongs to my illnesses. Not that I want to be ungrateful for this illness. If I, with my work, maintain that Wagner is harmful, then I want to maintain no less, for whom he is, in spite of it, indispensable--to the philosopher. ...Through Wagner, modernity speaks its most intimate language, it neither hides its good nor its bad, it has unlearned all shyness before itself. And reversed: one will almost have made an account of the value of modernity if one sees clearly with respect to the good and bad in Wagner.--I completely understand when a musician says today: "I hate Wagner, but I can no longer stand any other music.") and of course there’s Nietzsche on Wagner:
“Mein größtes Erlebnis war eine Genesung. Wagner gehört bloß zu meinen Krankheiten. Nicht daß ich gegen diese Krankheit undankbar sein möchte. Wenn ich mit dieser Schrift den Satz aufrechterhalte, daß Wagner schädlich ist, so will ich nicht weniger aufrechterhalten, wem er trotzdem unentbehrlich ist – dem Philosophen….Durch Wagner redet die Modernität ihre intimste Sprache: sie verbirgt weder ihr Gutes, noch ihr Böses, sie hat alle Scham vor sich verlernt. Und umgekehrt: man hat beinahe eine Abrechnung über den Wert der Modernen gemacht, wenn man über Gut und Böse bei Wagner mit sich im klaren ist.– Ich verstehe es vollkommen, wenn heut ein Musiker sagt: ‘ich hasse Wagner, aber ich halte keine andere Musik mehr aus.”

(My greatest experience was a recovery. Wagner only belongs to my illnesses. Not that I want to be ungrateful for this illness. If I, with my work, maintain that Wagner is harmful, then I want to maintain no less, for whom he is, in spite of it, indispensable–to the philosopher. …Through Wagner, modernity speaks its most intimate language, it neither hides its good nor its bad, it has unlearned all shyness before itself. And reversed: one will almost have made an account of the value of modernity if one sees clearly with respect to the good and bad in Wagner.–I completely understand when a musician says today: “I hate Wagner, but I can no longer stand any other music.”)

]]> By: Furry Elise http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-4708 Furry Elise Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:36:03 +0000 http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/#comment-4708 Love the quote. But of course, I love your blog even more. Love the quote.
But of course, I love your blog even more.

]]> By: Dana Sutton http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-4646 Dana Sutton Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:16:46 +0000 http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/#comment-4646 This slur against Wagner is entirely unwarranted. As Mark Twain said in his defense, his music is a lot better than it sounds. This slur against Wagner is entirely unwarranted. As Mark Twain said in his defense, his music is a lot better than it sounds.

]]> By: kkmk1237 http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-4635 kkmk1237 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:01:10 +0000 http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/#comment-4635 my favorite Wagner put downs... * Wagner's music is better than it sounds - Mark Twain * Wagner has great moments but dull quarter hours - Rossini * Every time I listen to Wagner, I get the urge to invade Poland - Woody Allen * I like Wagner’s music better than any other music. It is so loud that one can talk the whole time, without people hearing what one says. - Oscar Wilde my favorite Wagner put downs…

* Wagner’s music is better than it sounds – Mark Twain

* Wagner has great moments but dull quarter hours – Rossini

* Every time I listen to Wagner, I get the urge to invade Poland – Woody Allen

* I like Wagner’s music better than any other music. It is so loud that one can talk the whole time, without people hearing what one says. – Oscar Wilde

]]> By: BM San Miguel http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-4540 BM San Miguel Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:25:48 +0000 http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/#comment-4540 Hi, I have a couple of questions about your blog: 1) Is it OK with you if I spread some link love and link to your blog? I think my visitors would like your blog. 2) I noticed on your blog that you link to other blogs, do you think its possible for you to link to my blog myairshoes.com? Please let me know what you think. Thanks for your time. BM Hi,
I have a couple of questions about your blog:

1) Is it OK with you if I spread some link love and link to your blog? I think my visitors would like your blog.

2) I noticed on your blog that you link to other blogs, do you think its possible for you to link to my blog myairshoes.com?

Please let me know what you think. Thanks for your time.

BM

]]> By: Chris Kim http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-4452 Chris Kim Thu, 07 May 2009 18:06:12 +0000 http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2009/04/06/the-most-concise-brilliant-put-down-of-wagner-ever/#comment-4452 Love the blog! Love the quote even more. Love the blog!
Love the quote even more.

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